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Northwestern 65, NC State 53

N.C. State's Javier Gonzalez drives to the basket during the second half of their NCAA college basketball game, of N.C. State's 65-53 loss to Northwestern Tuesday Dec. 1, 2009, in Raleigh, N.C.  (AP Photo/The News & Observer, Ethan Hyman)

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3 months ago: N.C. State's Javier Gonzalez drives to the basket during the second half of their NCAA college basketball game, of N.C. State's 65-53 loss to Northwestern Tuesday Dec. 1, 2009, in Raleigh, N.C. (AP Photo/The News & Observer, Ethan Hyman)

Four Factors NC State
Northwestern
eFG% 35.7 55.1
Turnover Rate 20.2 24.9
Off Reb Rate 30.0 34.5
FT Rate 33.9 32.7

 

Pts Poss OFF_EFF DEF_EFF
NW 65 64.3 101.1 82.4
NCSU 53 64.3 82.4 101.1

 

Box Score

NC State's defensive effort was good enough to earn the win tonight, but the offense was just... uh, highlighting how much of a work in progress this team is.  Northwestern scored 1.15 points per trip in the first half on the strength of 65.4% shooting but was limited to 0.89 pts/poss in the second.  But the Pack's offense continued to lay bricks in the second half, ultimately wasting a good opportunity to yoink this one away from the Wildcats.

Oh well.  We knew there were gonna be days like this offensively.  Plenty more ahead.

A trend to watch: our rebounding effort has gone out the window in the second half of just about every game we've played this season.  Fatigue?  Losing the battle to Northwestern in particular is inexcusable.

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Pretty happy I was on the west coast & unable to watch

Sounds like a putrid offensive effort, and nothing to brag about on the other end of the court. That whole 5-0 thing seems pretty irrelevant, as beating any of the remaining 3 good OOC opponents seems highly unlikely…

by wolfonthehill on Dec 2, 2009 1:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

smith and havi need help

havi, tracy and dennis played well, but didn’t get any help. state can’t win if williams, wood and mays don’t provide anything. c.j. williams i don’t understand. for the second straight year lowe has started him at the beginning of the season, and for the second straight year he has failed to produce. hopefully, degand can start playing soon and put williams, who made statements prior to the beginning of the season about being the team leader, on the bench. as the number two guard he needs to score. he didn’t last year and hasn’t so far this year.
as to wood, i expected him not to shoot well once he got to state. not surprised by his poor shooting and will be surprised if he starts shooting better this year. i sure hope he does. he has a quick release and great form. freshman pressure?
another player i don’t understand is degand. its his last year! one would expect him to do what it takes academically to ensure that he can play.

by sbas2 on Dec 2, 2009 8:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Many frustrating things last night

The small forward position was a black hole. Wood missed lots of open shots and Davis was not impressive at all and ideally would be a victory cigar type player. Don’t even get me started on CJ at the 2.

Mays seems uncomfortable out on the court. I really hoped he and wood would have some chemistry from high school.

Our “strategy” against half court traps does not appear to have changed. Step 1: cross the time line and stop. Step 2: Wait for the trap. Step 3: Nobody left open move to relieve the trapped ballhandler. Step 4. Dangerous lob pass. Being PGs, you would think that Lowe and Towe would be able to instruct the team how to properly handle half court traps.

Horner needs to be more assertive the whole game. The team needed him to step up in the first half.

It is hard to win with offensive contributions from only 3 players.

The players are forcing it a little too much to Tracy right now. He should be our first option, but the players go into modes where they act like he is the only option. This makes things way too easy on the defense.

Everytime State made a run and needed one more stop they allowed either a wide open 3 or a wide open layup.

The refs: NW big guys shuffled their feet A LOT. Lots of moving screens, and lots of hack a tracy with no call.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Dec 2, 2009 8:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Other observations

I was impressed with Northwestern’s execution. They were able to squash every run we made with a well run play.

Javi is the leader of this team, and he played like he really wanted the win. I liked what I saw of Vandenburg (besides the sky hook). Painter is promising, but is very much a freshman. I liked his aggressiveness on the boards and willingness to take shots on offense.

The opening video/song is a freaking embarrassment. I don’t know why NCSU can’t put together a decent intro. Why choose a Rihanna song for a men’s bball game? With very good computer science and design programs can’t we get some better animations? Also, when everyone has stopped clapping and cheering before the end of the video it means it is way too long.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Dec 2, 2009 8:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

northwestern is a well-coached team

I was impressed as well. They’re an NIT team without Coble and I think last night was a good indication of how much work we’ve got to do if we want to end up in one of those consolation post-season tourneys.

Painter shows flashes of what he could be. That move he made in the first half that resulted in a bank shot score was surprisingly smooth.

by Akula Wolf on Dec 2, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was an impressive move

I think Painter will be quite good once he adds some strength and gets a little more experience. He at least has ACC level size and athleticism.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Dec 2, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The description of our response to half-cour traps infuriates me

That’s the ONE THING that two national champion point guards should sure as hell know how to teach kids how to handle. There’s exactly one way that you DON’T handle that pressure… and it’s to pick up your dribble after your cross half-court, allowing the defense to use the half-court line and sideline as two extra defenders.

This is not rocket science. This is VERY basic. You will NEVER see a point guard at either of our triangle neighbors pick up his dribble as he crosses half-court… even if he’s a freshman in his first game. But here? Same shit every year.

Dammit, that’s discouraging.

by wolfonthehill on Dec 2, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's not like

it just happened a few times. That is what they do every single time, and that is how they have handled pressure the last couple years! That leads me to believe a) that is how they are taught, b) they are not taught at all, or c) they are taught how to break pressure but our players just can’t perform simple tasks.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Dec 2, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side...

Good TO numbers again. Particularly encouraged by the defensive TO numbers against a team that has been taking care of the ball. We’ve certainly improved on the defensive side of the court from last year.

Otherwise, this loss is basically indistinguishable from any number of other losses over the past X number of years where we missed a bunch of shots. I don’t see any reason to get worked up about this unless you were one of those people who had deluded yourself into thinking that the NCAAs were possible.

by TVP on Dec 2, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

watch this

for any male who feels bad about n.c. state basketball, football, lee fowler etc watch this old video. you willll feel better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFEfmbAeEDY

by sbas2 on Dec 2, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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