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"[A]n unmitigated disaster for our basketball program"?

With RBC Center attendance a hot topic of late, the N&O caught up with former athletics director Les Robinson as well as new BFF and former Raleigh mayor Tom Fetzer to discuss the issue.

According to Fetzer, Sendek predicted "an unmitigated disaster for our basketball program if you get us out there. Please. And don't build this thing bigger than 17,500 or we won't be able to fill it."

Efforts to reach Sendek for comment were unsuccessful, but Robinson confirmed that he and Sendek expressed their concerns at time.

"I told some people - so did Herb, I think - that playing in a place like Reynolds is worth five points a game, more than five in some of the tougher games probably," Robinson said. "It's the same at Duke. The home advantage changes some when you go to a big, big building. But there just weren't any realistic options at the time. Renovating Reynolds would have cost an absolute fortune, and there still wouldn't have been a way to add parking."

Yes, the off-campus location is a problem to an extent.  I know I went to fewer basketball games than I wanted to my freshman year because I wasn't allowed to have a car on campus and finding transportation to the arena was difficult and discouraging.  But for alumni--the bulk of the fan base--making the drive either way, what's the difference?  None that I can see.

The method by which tickets are assigned probably could use some changes. And the building is too big, no doubt.  I'd say about 4,000 seats too big.  I'm not sure we'll ever fill it on a regular basis, barring a step forward by the program into a top-10 mainstay.

But..."unmitigated disaster"?  Strong words based on the assumption that the Reynolds atmosphere is worth five points a game, which is almost certainly not true.

Ken Pomeroy looked at the home court advantage a while back and suggested that it is the baseline factors that affect every road team everywhere--unfamiliar surroundings, a break in normal routine--that explain the bulk of teams' road struggles.  Which is not to say that the size or intensity of the home crowd doesn't matter, just that it's probably not as significant an influence as it seems.  

At any rate, the crux of the matter is this, noted by Robinson at the end of the article:

"Once State gets it going again, attendance will not be a issue," Robinson said. "There probably won't be enough seats then. Winning is the key to attendance. That'll always be the way to fill the seats."

I've seen enough important games at the RBC Center to feel comfortable with this: if the wins come, the atmosphere will take care of itself.

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Perhaps Herb...

…knew that getting more than 12K fans to watch his brand of basketball would be a tough sell? Sure played out that way.

All Wolfpack, all the time.

by YANCSSB on Dec 8, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wish

that we could fill up the RBC better, but I think people have romanticized Reynolds. My freshman year was the final year at Reynolds. I really enjoyed it being on campus, but the only time I ever had trouble getting a seat were the duke and unc games. I have had nosebleed season tickets for the past 3 years, but did not get any this year. This is only because I got a new job with a longer commute, and I didn’t know if I could make the weeknight games.

I still think our intro video is way more embarrassing than the attendance.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Dec 8, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and

one of the salient points from my link above:

in order to make money so that we could afford a decent bldg we needed a hockey team to share it with (or at least that was the idea that worked) and it needed to be size that it is to attract an nhl team.

by drspaceman on Dec 9, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i know it

Should have touched on that. I’m glad they did what they had to in order to get the team here, even though it cost us some intimacy.

by Akula Wolf on Dec 9, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Was not a place conducive to college basketball and having 10,000 empty seats make it worse. Well Lee and Sid are very happy with it ,they should be happy they have jobs as well.

by kyjelly on Dec 9, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just FYI, the Red Terror Transit (i.e. Wolfline buses) now run to every home basketball game from various pickup points on campus and I think they are going to increase the number of buses in the near future. Given that only 7,500-8,000 of the 30,000 students at State live on campus, and only about 4,000-4,500 of those are freshmen, most students can drive to the RBC or get a ride with someone who has a car. Parking is easy, all you have to do is show your student ID over behind the West stands at C-F.

The arena being off-campus is not a major issue. Like Les said, start winning, this isn’t an issue.

by leewolf on Dec 9, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

When I was a freshman

I walked back from Carter-Finley to Sullivan Dorm after every home football game (in the snow, up hill).

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Dec 9, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you lucky, lucky BAStard!

We had to crawl back pulling the team bus in the fresh tar that they put down during every game. And we were thankful.

by PeeDub on Dec 9, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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