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North Carolina 77, NC State 63

Four Factors NC State
UNC
eFG% 44.9 56.1
Turnover Rate 15.1 15.1
Off Reb Rate 22.2 33.3
FT Rate 18.6 38.6

 

Pts Poss OFF_EFF DEF_EFF
UNC 77 66.3 116.1 95.0
NCSU 63 66.3 95.0 116.1

 

Box Score

For the second consecutive game, NC State's offensive and defensive performances fell off a cliff in the second half, this time punctuated by a crippling eight minute scoring drought that began with the Wolfpack up five and ended with them down six.  By the time Tracy Smith ended the drought with a bucket at the 8:50 mark, the margin may as well have been 20.  Carolina remained calm and in firm control, while NC State had been rattled to the point of stupidity.  Dumb, panicked shots down the stretch assured there would be no comeback.

It was disappointing to watch them come apart like that, but not surprising, not against the Heels.

Carolina turned the ball over in the second half at the rate we've come to expect from them, but they shot 63.5% to State's 35.5% and continued to control the boards at both ends.  Those advantages provided more than enough cushion.

Now let's all freak out and set ourselves on fire.

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When you do your summary that quickly,...

…. it’s usually for a game that… well… went like that. Kinda like you just wanna get it over with & move on, and not have it waiting for you to relive the next day.

Am I close?

by wolfonthehill on Jan 27, 2010 5:29 AM EST reply actions  

yeah

Also my sobriety or lack thereof is usually a factor. Sometimes I got no choice but to sleep on it.

by Akula Wolf on Jan 27, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

And we're just not gonna win ACC games...

… where we shoot 40’ish percent. Even when we went up 5, it was because Javi got unusually hot, unusually early. Doing the math, it was clear that unless he kept it up & scored…. oh, let’ s say 48…. this was not going to end well. He didn’t… and it didn’t.

Move on.

by wolfonthehill on Jan 27, 2010 5:31 AM EST reply actions  

i fear that next year at this time, comments

about state lacking any decent point guard play will surface, even after Brown and Harrow are on the team. what if the issue is with a coach determined to run a system which cannot work-and especially cannot work with the players he has? for three halves this team played some of the most exciting basketball by aggressively trapping full court and playing up tempo. come the Maryland game and the UNC game it was back to slow ball. State tried to half heartedly trap a few times last night, but that was it. Lowe has said that his mentor Valvano said at the beginning of each season that the team was going to play faster, but in the end played slow ball. In Lowe’s press conference last night he said that at times State tried to play maybe too fast. Coach wants an inside out low tempo game no matter what else he says.
will Lowe play Mays over Brown and Harrow to run his low tempo system? at one point in the first half last night i was so infuriated with Mays (this was before it became apparent that Wood was not going to be able to hit the broad side of a barn last night) becasue he stood dribbling near the half court line trying to get everyone into the position he wanted while Wood stood wide open at the three point line begging for the ball.
in 2006 after UNC game to Raleigh with another beatable team and crushed State, support for Sendek was shot. i not longer support Lowe. to me, he could not afford his team losing to a very bad (and yes they are) UNC team.

by sbas2 on Jan 27, 2010 8:01 AM EST reply actions  

In Lowe’s press conference last night he said that at times State tried to play maybe too fast. Coach wants an inside out low tempo game no matter what else he says.

He understands that we have to go inside-out to be successful. That could change in the coming years, and I don’t think there is any evidence to suggest Lowe won’t recognize those changes and adjust accordingly. I highly doubt he’s married to what we’re doing at this point in time.

will Lowe play Mays over Brown and Harrow to run his low tempo system?

You must be kidding.

by Akula Wolf on Jan 27, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

state got dominated

on the boards. Part of that is unc’s ability to go over the back with impugnity, but a lot of it falls on state’s players and coaches. If Horner is not hitting shots, he offers no advantages over Howell. Howell is a much better rebounder and a much better inside scorer.

I also still do not understand why lowe would press duke, which has the best backcourt in the ACC, and not unc, who has shown a propensity for committing turnovers. I was disappointed that unc seemed to grab every loose ball, they just seemed to want the win more.

I do wish that our players were allowed to guard the rim like it is nba jam. I was getting so mad everytime an announcer would mention all of Henson’s great blocks. 2/3 were goaltends.

It seems like some of the players almost come out intimidated by unc. I think we learned in the liveblog last night that for ultimate success we need a team that has no respect for any other program’s tradition, that wants to smash that tradition to pieces, and establish greatness for themselves. In other words, be motherfuckers!

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 27, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

so, PACKHOOLIGAN,

you are writing that those two shots by Tracy, which i thought from where i sat were goal tended, where indeed goal tended. certainly looked like blatant goal tending to me. not that this is a reason for State losing, but my sister- in- law and I wondered how much that balding ref got from Williams last night to call the game in favor of the TarHeels. that was pretty blatant. most of the time, whenever, he blew the whistle, it wan’t in favor of State.

by sbas2 on Jan 27, 2010 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

The "block" on Tracy

was blatant goaltending (plus wear fouled him on the shot). The other block on the finger roll was a closer call, but I thought it was goaltending. I thought the play against tracy was critical and really swung the momentum totally in unc’s favor. After that you could see that the State players thought the game was being called in unc’s favor, and they looked hopeless. I have played in games where I have felt the same, and it is no fun (and i usually ended up getting a T).

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 27, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Steven

I am super bored at work this week and need some entertainment. I am going to request 1 new post every 2 hours. They don’t even have to be about NC State, we could do favorite simpsons quotes, beer recommendations, best triangle restaurants, anything. I know you might be working and/or sick, but as a loyal reader of your blog, I don’t think I am asking too much. I am ready to be entertained. You’re on the clock.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 28, 2010 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

I'll get started

Simpsons quote: “You don’t win friends with salad.”

Beer: Seeing Double IPA – Foothills Brewery

Restaurant – Penang, Chapel Hill – Thai/Malaysian

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 28, 2010 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

Futurama quote (sorry, don’t do Simpsons quotes):
That Guy: There are two kinds of people: sheep and sharks. Anyone who is a sheep is fired. Who is a sheep?
Dr. Zoidberg: Errr, excuse me… which is the one people like to hug?
That Guy: Gutsy question. You’re a shark. Sharks are winners, and they don’t look back because they have no necks. Necks are for sheep.

Beer: Bell’s Hopslam – 10% high gravity, but super hoppy, smoothed with honey. Delish!

Restaurant: J. Bettski’s – I recommend sitting at the bar and having pub plates (pierogies and sausages are the best!) and draft German beer.

by PeeDub on Jan 28, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Nice PeeDub

I’m am still holding out hope for a super Havi* type performance at the end of the day by Steven

*trademarked by sbas2

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 28, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

maybe, i should have been, but i was not kidding when i asked

if Lowe would play Mays over Harrow and Brown so that he can create the slow tempo inside out game i think he desires. i was infuriated by the Tuesday night game which lead to me ask that question. i still think its valid until proven otherwise. :-)
two questions. first. why is C. J. Williams still getting playing time? second. does anyone know if Horner is able to practice? if Horner hasn’t been able to practice, it would give reason for his performance against Maryland and UNC.
playing an inside out slow tempo game is allowing teams to double and triple on Smith. after the Duke game, teams learned that they can’t leave Smith when Degand breaks down the defense, and teams are staying with Smith and betting that Degand can’t finish. Degand has not be able to effectively finish in the last two games.

by sbas2 on Jan 29, 2010 8:02 AM EST reply actions  

I think there is absolutely no way

Mays plays over Harrow or Brown. I will be shocked if those two are not starting from day 1. They are Sid’s only hope for success, and I think his job security pretty much lies in their hands.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 29, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

o.k. so i am "bloggin bad" on Lowe right now.

another thing i am getting tired of is Lowe’s quizzical look whenever questionable call goes against State. i quote the following from a WRALSPORTS article: 9 – Teach Sidney Lowe how to undress Refs like Roy and K.
maybe Lowe should look at some film from State games in the late sixties to see how Sloan reacted to such calls?

i will get over it. :-)

by sbas2 on Jan 29, 2010 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

I agree sbas

I think we have empirical evidence that treating the refs with any modicum of respect gets NC State nowhere (see Sendek and Lowe). My only big issue with the officials this year is the lack of calls Tracy Smith gets. I guess I could go try to look at some FT rate numbers for him as compared to other high usage big men around the league, but it seems like he goes to the line a paltry amount for the defensive coverage he sees. You have to wonder if it stems back to the comments he made.

One idea is to hire Tommy Burleson as an assistant. I still remember him undressing an official from the sidelines during the sendek years. He was the only one standing up in the high rollers sideline section, he was pointing to the closest ref just laying into him. I almost peed myself I was so giddy. I think Tommy could get a referees full attention.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 29, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

i have another issue with the refs,

and this dosen’t just concern State. i am wondering how UNC is able to inbounds the ball after a made basket so quickly to initiate their runout. seems that the refs, especially when State is getting the ball after a made basket, hold the ball for an inordinate amount of time allowing the defense of the other team to set up. am i dreaming, or is this a fact?

by sbas2 on Jan 29, 2010 11:23 AM EST reply actions  

The refs don't need to

handle the ball after a made basket. I imagine Roy Williams coaches his players to get the ball in as fast as possible. On the otherhand, many times you will see all but 1 (whoever is playing pg) state player run back up the court, not even realizing that one of them needs to throw it in.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 29, 2010 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

yep

We simply don’t have the desire to get it in quickly. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

by Akula Wolf on Jan 29, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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