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We Got Us A Winning Streak

Four Factors NC State
Miami
eFG% 55.3 52.9
Turnover Rate 16.1 22.5
Off Reb Rate 32.3 34.5
FT Rate 66.0 31.4

 

Pts Poss OFF_EFF DEF_EFF
Miami 66 62.2 106.2 114.2
NCSU 71 62.2 114.2 106.2

 

Box Score

Miami sucks because you can do whatever you want with them.  So long as you don't shoot yourself in the foot with unforced errors, it's a straightforward matter of hitting a decent percentage of the generous looks they provide.  It's winning at the most elementary level of execution; the frequency with which Haith's teams are lost or confused at the defensive end serves to strip the game down to the basics.

It never really felt like NC State took control, but rather that they should have taken control, missed the opportunity, and gave the game away.  When Miami pushed the lead to nine, I gave up on the outcome, and I'm guessing just about everyone else did as well.  We've seen this too many times.  When the guys start a second half slowly, that usually means they're going to struggle for the duration.  Considering their issues at the line, not to mention the way the rims treated them, there wasn't much to suggest this game was going to be any different.

But they flipped the script, pulling back to within two in 70 seconds.  The margin didn't exceed four points in either direction until State finally got its shit together in the last three minutes.  Tracy came back from a painful collision to hit some clutch shots in the paint, while Javi added a bunch of clutch free throws.

We got us a winning streak!

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http://yetanotherncstatesportsblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/red-hot-pack-on-two-game-winning-streak.html

Hate I missed the LiveBlog…me and the wife were cleaning out the shed (no lie).

All Wolfpack, all the time.

by YANCSSB on Feb 28, 2010 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Those rebounding numbers are hard to believe

It SEEMED like Miami grabbed every offensive board they wanted, and it SEEMED like we grabbed none, except for when Josh Davis would intentionally miss a layup so he could grab his board and put it back. (OK – I know – that only happened once.)

The thing that WAS different was that we grabbed our own missed free throws on numerous occasions, giving us extra possessions, and those proved to be huge.

Great liveblog – 1 or 2 to go… sniff, sniff

by wolfonthehill on Feb 28, 2010 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that surprised me as well. We must have turned the rebounding around in the second half. Box score doesn’t include the usual 1st/2nd breakdown, though, so who knows. Stupid inconsistent college stat keepers.

by Akula Wolf on Feb 28, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Just reviewed the SFN liveblog

We should take it as a compliment that our creative vernacular has seeped into their standard verbiage. “Tattoo Powah”, “Boom”, “Chops”, etc, make appearances, even if folks don’t really understand that “Boom” doesn’t just refer to a dunk by any Joe the Plumber.

Puts pressure on us – we have to keep the creativity flowing…

by wolfonthehill on Feb 28, 2010 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Mountebanks.

by PeeDub on Feb 28, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I had to look mountebanks up, thus you’ve earned a +1. Adding that word to the vocab.

by Akula Wolf on Feb 28, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't pretty, but...

we won – and without shooting lights out. We were running plays and 1/2 of our shots were off those plays. One thing Lowe needs to help our players figure out is how to run a fast break and when not to run one. We lost 3 baskets on that alone – not to mention the free throws.

I’ll guarantee you that after other coaches see how effective Miami’s zone was, we’ll be seeing more of that this year. I hope Lowe teaches some offense against the zone before the next game.

Tracy Smith is good, make that great . They were trying to triple him several times, but he still got the shot off. Basically, he’s our entire offense, and offense from anyone else is ‘frosting on the cake’.

The speed advantage that their highly rated freshman had over Javi was evident, but Javi won on basketball smarts and good defense (when their freshman didn’t have momentum to fly by him, that is).

It’s good to see CJ Williams get more playing time – if we are going to move to the next level next year, he’ll have to be a major contributor.

After seeing how few people were at the basketball game, I actually felt sorry for Miami. I checked out highly ranked Miami’s players are, and they’ve got a pretty talented team. Not sure why they aren’t better this year.

by Travelwolf on Feb 28, 2010 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

about that 9 point Miami lead.

at that point i was verbally abusing Lowe through the television. hope my wife didn’t hear me. i write again, while i love Tracy Smith and think he should be first team All-ACC (for sure second team), passing the ball into him on every or almost every offensive possesion leads to a stagnant offense becasue the other players don’t move and don’t look to shoot. in the second half of the Wake game, State ran a different offense i think. i am not that knowledgeable with regard to offensive schemes, but what I think State ran was either a motion offense or a viation of a flex with the guards and small forward setting picks and trying to penetrate the foul line from the top of the three point line. when State got behind by 9 at Miami, State appeared to again start running that same offense, but closer or within the foul line. mixing this offense in with passes to Smith and viola-a win.

now a few words about the women’s team. with an NCAA bid on the line, the women lost at Wake. not surprising as they luckily beat Wake at Raleigh. i followed the game on Game Tracker. bad game by Kastanek. State needs her to get 15-20 points a game. i think she got into early foul trouble and only tallied 5 points.
to get to the NCAA’s state has to beat Ga Tech today. no if and or buts. Tech is a poor shooting team from what i saw from their game with UNC, but their defense can create havoc.

by sbas2 on Feb 28, 2010 12:12 PM EST reply actions  

You know, sbas...

… I really look forward to what you write these days. You’ve got a unique but insightful viewpoint… plus, we’ve sort of adopted “Havi” as the correct spelling for Gonzalez’s name. :)

I also like that you’re clearly into NC State sports – all of ’em. You know more about every non-revenue sport than I do – kudos to you, sir.

by wolfonthehill on Feb 28, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony Haynes has mentioned in the last two games that State has indeed incorporated the flex into its offensive scheme. Which is good, since it forces the guys without the ball to move around more instead of just watching Tracy go one-on-one.

All Wolfpack, all the time.

by YANCSSB on Feb 28, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

my guess

from doing some internet reserach is that State always runs some type of motion offense, but in the instances i wrote about chose to emphasize the guards more. am i wrong?

a good article on Lo Brown: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/02/28/362242/brown-matures-on-off-the-court.html

by sbas2 on Feb 28, 2010 12:33 PM EST reply actions  

state women get a big win and have good luck.

wake and b.c. lost leaving state tied for fifth place with wake at 7 and 7. on senior day freshman Kastanek led according to ESPNU which gave her the top performer for State. Senior Gartrel went 0 for 7 and made only one free throw. Senior Beal had a decent game but White did not. Tasler also had a good game. good win. should have given the State women and NCAA bid.

by sbas2 on Feb 28, 2010 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

As I said above...

… good info on the women. Thanks…

by wolfonthehill on Feb 28, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

thankyou wolfonthehill.

sometimes i think i might babel on too much. as for sports this is my order of importance: men’s basketball; football; women’s basketball; baseball; softball and of course bass fishing! i follow all state atheletics but don’t know much about those i didn’t list. not to say i really know much about the other sports either.

by the way, i have always wanted to ask if wolfonthehill referenced the d.c. area.

by sbas2 on Mar 1, 2010 7:16 AM EST reply actions  

Nope - wish it were that innocuous

It refers to the fact that I now live in Orange County… Carrboro town limits, but I have gulp a Chapel Hill address.

So I’m a wolf on the hill…

by wolfonthehill on Mar 1, 2010 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Which means, of course...

… that I’m likely to be unemployed in about 8 months…

by wolfonthehill on Mar 1, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a weird game

as Steven mentioned. Seemed like just one of those games where State should have taken command early and was going to pay for not doing so. Then all of a sudden, State has a lead and takes the game!

I would have expected the background for this page to be all black if Tracy’s knee scare had turned out more serious. He is just a monster, it amazes me every game.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Mar 1, 2010 8:21 AM EST reply actions  

Watching the FSU-Clemson game

Those two teams will probably make the NCAA tournament, but don’t look for either one to go far. Neither team has a clue of how to run a halfcourt offense. Booker was getting the Tracy Smith treatment (triple teams) and Clemson’s other players just could not make FSU pay. This was a game where FSU should have put the game away by halftime (Clemson had 12 points with about 3 minutes to go) but they were almost as inept on offense.

Alabi (sp?) missed the chance to tie the game with 12 seconds left when he missed a freethrow. I think he shoots over 80%, which is ridiculous for a 7 footer. Booker put Clemson up by 3 with 2 FTs. FSU inbounded and Clemson was in a 3/4 court press. FSU got over halfcourt pretty quickly, and I thought they should have tried to get a shot while Clemson’s defense was overextended. Instead they called a timeout. Dulkys(sp?) subsequent 3 was blocked, game over.

I am really a proponent of letting players make plays at the end of games as opposed to set plays. If you call a timeout to set up a play with less than 10 seconds left, it seems like if the first option isn’t there, it’s over. Plus you have given the defense the chance to set up. All clemson needed to do was set guys guarding the 3. I am really just rambling. I think my point is that the ACC is really lacking in coaching talent. Most of them seem to coach by the book without thinking about what is really going to give their team the best chance.

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Mar 1, 2010 8:31 AM EST reply actions  

i think the Clemson-FSU

game is an example of what is wrong with ACC basketball now. i couldn’t bare to watch. the scores are so low. the most entertaining teams, and teams which can actually put some points on the board, are Maryland, Va Tech, and Duke. Wake joined these teams early in the season, but they, at this time, are doing what has become their annual Dino Swan song.

too many ACC games have become low scoring slug-fest.

interestingly Maryland, Duke and Va Tech all have really good point guards. Wake should have, but now dosen’t. hopefully State joins that list next year.

by the way, in talking with fans around me during the Wake -State men’s game, it was agreed that the ACC should drop B.C., FSU and Miami. i admitt that unless State is playing either of these teams i could care less about their games.

by sbas2 on Mar 1, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

It was an abysmal game

besides the drama of the close score. I was cooking and eating dinner through most of it. If I had been on the couch watching, the channel would have probably been switched. I just hope the ACC doesn’t turn into the Big Ten with a bunch of clutching and grabbing teams hoping they can get to 60 points.

I did turn off the Duke-UVA game pretty early. With Landesberg out, UVA never had a chance to even make it competitive.

On a side note, how much longer does Dino have at Wake?

by PACKHOOLIGAN on Mar 1, 2010 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

Other teams play abysmal games?

Seems like every one of ours is exquisitely painful to watch, and that we just drag our opponents down to our level… good to know we’re not the only ones.

by wolfonthehill on Mar 1, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

truly awful

I watched the last ten minutes, mostly because I wanted to see how many points Clemson was going to end up with. For a while there it didn’t look like they were gonna get to 40.

All of it was predictable—two of the worst offenses and two of the best defenses in the ACC going at it.

by Akula Wolf on Mar 1, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

great coaching

I always feel better playing the southern 25% of the ACC, because I know we won’t get out-coached.

by acc_10k on Mar 1, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

Not to ruin the party...

But, we still have the ‘least talented’ guards in the conference. So, they have a couple good shooting games. If they win 2 more in a row, then I’ll believe that we’ve adjusted our playing to match OUR level of guard talent.

by Travelwolf on Mar 1, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

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