Vanderbilt 86, NC State 79

by Akula Wolf on Nov 20, 2011 3:50 PM EST

Four Factors	NCSU	Vandy
eFG%	53.2	60.2
Turnover Rate	17.2	22.5
Off Reb Rate	28.6	31.4
FT Rate	35.5	61.1

	Pts	Poss	OFF_EFF	DEF_EFF
Vandy	86	75.6	113.8	104.6
NCSU	79	75.6	104.6	113.8

Box Score

Tough to pull off an upset when the other team shoots the ball like that, and in the end we couldn't find enough of an edge in the other factors to overcome the shooting disparity. But it sounded like (I wasn't able to watch any of it thanks to the football game and football-related celebrating that came afterward) the guys acquitted themselves pretty well in their first trip away from Raleigh against a NCAA tournament-caliber foe.

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Game well played

The boys played well. Being there, I was probably more in-tune with our play than our stats, and I can’t complain too much…but I will.

Boxing out for Calvin seems difficult, gave up plenty of Offense boards. I talked to Moxley after the game about this, he’s taking care of it. That’s my only real complaint.

The team played. When someone is on fire like Jenkins was, there isn’t much you can do. My sister couldn’t believe some of the shots he made and we were talking to the fans around us, and they didn’t realize we were playing JJ Reddick in the ACC Champ game again.

Depth was the biggest factor in the game, as you could tell we were gassed by the last 5 mins. Have Wood and/or DeThaey for that game, I think we can pull it out or push to OT.

Vanderbilt big men are awful. They shot 3’s all night, and the big men couldn’t play defense or offense, effectively. The boards they got were because of over the back non-calls or because we decided not to jump or box out. I mean they were bad. Just wish Howell wasn’t in shitty foul trouble early because he was abusing them as was Deshawn.

Oh yea, and Vanderberg still is awful.

by chip24spb on Nov 20, 2011 5:50 PM EST reply actions

chip has a better feel for the game than i have.

i watched it on ESPN3, but the streaming was poor due to my BIT DSL hookup. sometimes it looked like State played defense like they did when Lowe was the coach.
i feel like i am seeing Tyler Harris too much, but due to Wood being out, that is probably a must. hopefully, i will see less of him when Wood returns.
i am not hopeful for DeThaey playing anytime soon as other conference teams have had players in similar situation, and the issues were not resolved quickly. however, i do note the tweet from DeThaey himself. if DeThaey becomes eligible, maybe i can see even less of Harris.
i should clarify my feelings on Harris. i think in a few years he will be a really good player, but right now his lack of strength and poor defense are apparent.

by sbas2 on Nov 20, 2011 7:17 PM EST reply actions

Yes Harris is a liability on defense, right now

and I’ll stress those last two words. He couldn’t keep up with Jenkins, whom he had to check at times, but did ok vs the remainder of his foes. He looked like a freshman, but think you are very right. He will get better, a lot better. The things you can say about him is that he is confident and hussles. I think around his Junior year he should start looking really good, especially with those he can play with next year.

by chip24spb on Nov 20, 2011 8:09 PM EST up reply actions