Ryan Harrow Is Transferring From NC State
by Akula Wolf on Apr 26, 2011 3:57 PM EDT
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PrintThis is just breaking so I don't have an article/press release link yet, but it has been confirmed by a number of sources on Twitter that Ryan Harrow has asked for his release from NC State. The official NCSU basketball Twitter account calls is a "mutual decision:"
Wolfpack/Harrow reach mutual decision that Harrow will transfer to another institution.
Ryan will not be allowed to transfer anywhere in the ACC
Harrow: "The year off will help me improve in many ways and I think the decision is the best for me personally."
"We wish him well and will do anything we can to assist him in this process," said Gottfried, who added that he would release Harrow to any school except one in the Atlantic Coast Conference.
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(1) The “mutual decision” language is interesting. Is it just spin? Or did Gott feel like Harrow wasn’t willing to buy in or had an entitlement complex? I’ve heard that CJL has changed his attitude and seems willing to buy in and work hard now. Maybe Harrow wasn’t there.
(2) This may sound like Haterade, and maybe it is, but the fact is that, while talented, Harrow had the WORST shooting percentage in ACC play of anyone in the conference and couldn’t defend a traffic cone. He’s got lots of talent – but he needs to work really hard and get his mind right if he wants to make an impact anywhere. His game right now seems better suited for AAU/highlight reel than actual games that matter.
(3) Great example of the dangers of anointing recruits as saviors. Or keeping bad coaches in order to hang on to recruits, for that matter.
(4) I think Zo will do well at point next year. We could be OK as long as no one gets hurt (HA). But Gott and staff will need to recruit their asses off for 2012.
good stuff
(1) The "mutual decision" language is interesting. Is it just spin? Or did Gott feel like Harrow wasn’t willing to buy in or had an entitlement complex? I’ve heard that CJL has changed his attitude and seems willing to buy in and work hard now. Maybe Harrow wasn’t there.
My initial reaction was spin, but you may be right about the attitude thing. I don’t think Harrow was fully committed last season, and that sure didn’t look like it was going to change considering his body language during Gottfried’s introductory press conference.
My vote is spin
unless Harrow really was a cancer, how do you come to a mutual decision to let your starting point walk?
From Ryan’s perspective, a year off to work on fundamentals is probably for the best if he hopes to play professionally at some point
by ginger avenger on Apr 26, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
"Cancer" might be too strong a word but...
if you think that guy is going to be a problem for team chemistry all year, then you are probably better off letting him walk.
Look, we are rebuilding. AGAIN. Harrow leaving doesn’t really set us back much if he was going to be the same guy he was last year. Gott doesn’t need to win next year, and he probably won’t. He needs to build his program and win in 2013-14 and going forward. Harrow leaving doesn’t really affect that.
Again, I don’t KNOW how it went down with Harrow/Gott but it wouldn’t really shock me if the staff wasn’t crying over his departure.
posters at various blogs have stated that they don't understand this decision,
but wished him well. not me. i say:
good-by cry-baby. don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out.
this kid has been a cry-baby even before he actually got here.
one final thing. if he loved Lowe so much; how come he didn’t play better and harder for him. so many have written similarly about the players who confessed much love for Lowe.
but it bears repetition.
Starting Lineup next year
PG: Brown
SG: Wood (possibly CJW)
SF: CJ Leslie
PF: Rich
C: Vandy/Painter
Wow! That looks awfully thin for a lineup…bunch of small bodies in there. I’m pretty sure we will be in the bottom third for height/weight at each of those positions with the exception of Richard. Harrow wouldn’t have changed this at all, but we better be fast and sneaky because there is no way we are beating up anybody.
See Williams and Harris (freshman) replacing Woods/CJL. Scary but Raymond (freshman) may have to run point to spell Brown or else that kid is playing 40 mins a night.
Makes no sense to me.
The guy throws away a starting spot and guaranteed massive playing time. This really hurts us for next year. Not that he was a great player, but it leaves us with one guy on the team that can play the point. Does CJ Williams take back up PG duty? I don’t see any way that Wood can play PG without dramatic improvement in ball handling. Is CJ Williams the first guy off the bench for the 1-3 positions? Wow.
Does CJ Williams take back up PG duty? I don’t see any way that Wood can play PG without dramatic improvement in ball handling. Is CJ Williams the first guy off the bench for the 1-3 positions? Wow.
Terrifying. Somebody hold me.
Somebody put Brown
on IV now. That guy is going to be playing 40 a night. Will every team we play now employ a press just to wear out our thin backcourt?
by PACKHOOLIGAN on Apr 27, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Hodge on Twitter
Don’t have too read those “emotional a**” tweets/posts anymore!! #winning Was like reading an online channel of “Lifetime”! #boyestrogen lol
Can we please hire hodge as our SID
yesterday?
by ginger avenger on Apr 26, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm actually quite suprised NCSU hasn't hired Hodge for anything yet
Dude loves the university, and he isn’t doing much in pro basketball. Bring him in the fold. And do it soon, so you can groom him to be a coach/AD/president in the future
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
so.
i wasn’t the only one who thought he was a crybaby. i feel better.
Hell hadt no fury like a Wolfpacker spurned!
We should have known better...
and what I mean by that is that we all had a VERY early warning sign that if things went awry for Lowe (or just awry for Harrow) that he would jump ship. I’m talking about that letter that Harrow wrote (and PP published) urging us to wait for the coming salvation and warning us not to be too critical of our school. It was a naive letter from a young man who was clearly not very educated in the ways of big time college sports. That is fine, but to be somewhat lectured by a 17 year old kid was a warning from the get-go.
Harrow has some talent, but the last coaching staff wasn’t capable of developing it. I have a feeling he came in with an agenda with the new staff and they laid down the law in terms of the way things were going to be. Both sides were on different sides, thus the “mutual” language.
Just had a convo with TVP about this, but we agreed that this staff (unless there is a can’t-miss kind of guy) should reserve the scholarships for 2012 and 2013. Sid messed up by bringing in a bunch of guys that took up scholarships and didn’t advance the program. So instead of having one rough year and then building from there, we went through a few years of adversity with guys like Johnson, Mays, Lewandowski, etc. Take your lumps now and focus on building the future.
agree with you guys about the scholarships
No point in tossing one out there for a warm body who maybe possibly could see minutes next year but will do nothing for us in the long run. That would make very little difference in terms of wins and losses next year, so it just ain’t worth it.
I agree
the only exception being maybe a transfer or juco who could steal 5-10 mins a game and be gone in year or two…no long shots who will likely either fill up bench space for four years or transfer to a smaller school in a year or two due to playing time.
Sid and Herb both fell into that trap (Mike O’Donnell and Trey Guidrey come to mind)
by ginger avenger on Apr 27, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Just toss in a warm body walk-on for a year
Gott had no problem running Steele 40 minutes and into the ground at Bama and will give it a go with ‘Zo. Don’t ask Raymond to do to much-just go in there and try your best-and than play a walk-on guard for a total spell of 5 minutes. Chances are with time that the staff could put another superb ball handler and another scorer in the backcourt with Lewis in ‘12. It’s all good-walk-on’s are part of the first year Coaching honeymoon process so just let it ride.
by Sportin'L.A.Gear on Apr 27, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Gives all parties a "best case"
Ryan…. good-bye, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good night…
For Coach Gott there is no long, long way to go installing his version of the High-post UCLA offense. From what I know about basketball it will take more traits than just physical/athletic to help transition the program. CJ Williams is a perfect fit for a new coach implementing a entirely new scheme. You can depend on him running the offense the way its supposed to go very early on. In that same root, an unproven player like Jaquan Raymond has a fantastic opportunity to show how willing he is to learn and be a student of the game.
by Sportin'L.A.Gear on Apr 27, 2011 6:35 AM EDT reply actions
Hopefully
Harrow learns soon that things aren’t going to be handed to you on a silver platter your whole life. It was telling that Jeff Gravely was pretty critical of Harrow yesterday on the radio, and he typically plays nice with everyone.
He basically said
that Harrow lacked toughness as evidenced by him being too sick to play against unc but not too sick to travel with the team and that the other players really did not like that and he lost their support at that point. He also said that Ryan acted the age of his voice and not his actual age.
by PACKHOOLIGAN on Apr 27, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The crazy thing is...
If the rumor that he went to Lexington yesterday to slide around Calipari’s Club is true than that would show a huge step in growing up. There is no way he could have gone Raleigh to New York to Lexington in one day and we know that the old Ryan couldn’t have done anything real important without buying some new shoes in NYC first. Really proud of him if he could quit cold turkey like that.
by Sportin'L.A.Gear on Apr 27, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions
I can see Georgia
since he is from there. Would he get any PT at Kentucky? He would not have this year.
by PACKHOOLIGAN on Apr 27, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
they're bringing in a 5-star PG this year
Don’t know if he’s supposed to be one-and-done or not.
And Georgia ranked 275th in tempo this year, way slower than NC State. Doesn’t make much sense if he is that set on pushing the ball.
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