We Have A Depth Problem
by Akula Wolf on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 AM EST
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PrintWhile State's third sub - forward Thomas de Thaey - played only three minutes, nine Yellow Jackets played at least six minutes.
It was a skewed stat because Glen Rice, Jr. (22 points) didn't start for Georgia Tech, but the Yellow Jackets finished with a 27-5 bench scoring advantage. More importantly, Georgia Tech's bench edge allowed coach Brian Gregory to use an attrition strategy that N.C. State couldn't counter.
And that's the problem.
The three bench players not named Glen Rice combined for 28 minutes and two field goal attempts. What sort of attrition--or "bench edge"--are we talking about here, because if State wanted to toss out some guys who weren't going to factor into the offensive end, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't have been an issue.
Why is six minutes the baseline? Poor Nick Foreman--logged just two minutes, couldn't figure into the column.
Nick Foreman (2 min. played): "Look at me, I took no shots!"
Nate Hicks (11): "Neither did I!"
Nick Foreman: "Are you relevant?"
Nate Hicks: "Apparently!"
Nick Foreman: "Well that is some shit right there. I'm transferring."
They had eight guys in double-figure minutes, State had seven. We could say that both squads combined for a total of 200 minutes apiece, and Georgia Tech happened to spend their 200 minutes a little better than did NC State. Georgia Tech had five guys who scored in double figures, NC State had five guys in double figures.
Even Wake Forest (10-6, 1-1) has enough frontcourt depth to hurt N.C. State on Saturday in Winston-Salem unless Leslie and Richard Howell can avoid foul trouble.
Even NC State has enough frontcourt depth to hurt Wake Forest on Saturday unless Ty Walker and Nikita Mescheriakov can avoid foul trouble. Read that stupid sentence again.
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BTP, you hit
the nail on the head. How much time did Rice spend on the bench at the beginning of each half before he came into the game? he really is no sub. don’t know the point in not starting him unless it is to get writers to make statements like Tudor did.
i have no issue with the seven man rotation, but an eight man rotation would be better. beyond that, its too many.
Excellent points Steven
The one thing that does worry me about the bench is that I never have any hope that either of the two subs will be able to step in for a starter who is having a poor game and provide a spark.
Leslie having foul trouble would not have been as big a deal if Howell wasn’t having such a poor game.
As for his comments about Wake, my counter: Wake starts Ty Walker and La Femme Nikita.
Looks like the problem is Georgia Tech is starting the game off with their best player on the bench. I’d say that’s a coaching problem
by Michael Sneeden on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions
I know that
Gregory and Rice had some issues earlier in the year, so maybe he is making Rice “earn” a starting spot in some way.
by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Sending Rice in at the 19:25 mark will learn ’im good!
soon enough
Rice will be sitting at the scorer’s table during the opening tip.
by PACKHOOLIGAN on Jan 13, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
yep, 7-8 man rotations never work
Duke has been trying this for years with only sporadic national championships to show for it. That Coach K is a complete hack.
by ginger avenger on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM EST reply actions
hilarious write up.
Only thing i can think of for us as fans watching is that we need to stop the interior passing and if we dont make sure they guy on the receiving end of those passes isnt Painter. He’s played solidly this year but we turn the ball over at least 3-4 times again because of interior passing.
Also, JUST DUNK THE BALL! STOP ATTEMPTING CUTESY LAYUPS!!!
That is all…for now.
GT didn't have depth either
They just happened to make an insane amount of unbelieveable shots. This has nothing to do with depth, we were just unlucky.
Yeah, that's it
We really should start tying to make shots from now on
by ginger avenger on Jan 13, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget their free throw defense... theirs was better than ours
by wolfonthehill on Jan 13, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's time we started chanting about STD rumors again
by PackMentality on Jan 13, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ah - I was at that one - good times
Til the fucker picked up a loose ball from between his legs 28 feet from the hoop and 2 seconds on the shot clock… and drained the 3…
So many awful memories from the RBC Center. I used to think of the RBC Center logos 30 feet out as Dunleavy-land. And of course, the spot in front of the visitors bench about 35 feet out is where Drew Nicholas will haunt me forever…
by wolfonthehill on Jan 13, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
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